Thank you, my question is going to be about social media. Raziye Akkoç AFP news agency.

I mean, it's not actually related to news, but since the President will be announcing the in quotation marks delay ban, I wanted to ask,

there is a security consultant on Twitter who, back in July and maybe afterwards, had said that he could still get into the Aid check app.

And as someone, and I'm not alone in this, who can't even get the Belgium ID app to work, I'm I'm a little bit curious how,

considering how suspicious I am of literally everyone, how are you actually going to make sure that that app is secure, because you'll make the argument.

That no data is being given, sure, but at the end of the day, what do we say?

You say whatever you write in your WhatsApps or other messaging apps, you should be comfortable with your grandma seeing it.

So I just want to be sure whether the European Commission can reassure citizens or whether you're prioritizing the rights or protecting children over the privacy of citizens,

because you can make the argument that Europe is a democracy today.

I think European history shows where Europe can sometimes go, so I just want to say to those concerns, what do you say?

So, Let me start with the first point, Raziye, is that What is the current situation when children,

vulnerable people, adults want to go on online platforms,

especially for children, there are zero age checks.

The age verification tools that are currently in place are the ones from online platforms.

Simple fact is that they do not work.

So today, the current standard is that a kid from his birth till his so-called 13-year age,

which is the terms and conditions of the platforms.

Can access all these websites because the platforms are not playing their role and this is what we're seeing under the DSA.

This is precisely why we have proposed a natureification app, building on the success of the COVID app, which allowed us again to travel,

to go to concerts, and I will not make the entire story, but we all remember how useful this app was.

I would challenge you on one thing, I think you can go anywhere in the world.

The EU is the one who has the most privacy preserving framework in place with the GDPR.

That's Europe, and this is always In respect to, of course respecting our fundamental rights and doing everything we can there.

Now how will this app work exactly like the COVID app worked? It's fully based on zero knowledge proof.

If you want to set up your app, you download it,

you use an ID document to just put in place and to format it and to make sure that the app knows what age you are. Nothing is stored on your app.

No personal data is stored on your app, and it is.

Important because if you go to a platform, a gambling platform, an adult content platform,

a social media platform, you will not reveal anything about yourself.

You remain in full control of your data.

The only thing that the platform will know via your app is just if you're above or under a certain age.

So of course we keep working on that app, but we will, as always, present,

and we have presented and developed the most privacy preserving solutions for our citizens.

I hope that Thomas persuaded you as much as he persuaded me.

Follow up, you did respond indeed to the data protection part,

but you didn't respond to the technical and the fact that even with the entry exit system, there's drama.

I just want to be sure, how are you going to guarantee that this app works, because right now I can't access my health documents, and that's a system that's been there for years.

So why is this app definitely going to work and everyone will still be able to access social media if they're above a certain age?

Look, let me make one point extremely clear today.

In real life, a child aged 15 year old shouldn't be able to buy alcohol.

He will find a way if he really wants to. Same for cigarettes, etc. Etc.

There will always be ways for citizens to go around the system.

So we will not say that we will block every kid and every vulnerable citizen to access prohibited websites. This is not what we're saying.

What we're putting in place is again going from the current standard,

which is basically zero safeguards to putting in place and giving to parents,

caretakers appropriate tools to protect their children.

Because platforms are not playing their role, and again, let me finish on this point. We have convened a special panel.

I will not prejudge what the president will be announcing next week at SOTEU

but this is a top priority for the Commission, and, I would just say stay tuned for next week. He is convincing Raziye. But you're also difficult to convince. No, no, I'm sorry, you didn't answer. I was, I'm questioning the technical element.

Are you gonna make sure that the app works?

On our side, the technical work is done. We can always improve the app. Now the burden is on member states.

They should develop this app, personalize it, and then offer it to their citizens. So our work is done.

We have come up with the most privacy solution we could present, easy to use.

Now it's for member states, and we have said one of the solutions is to embed it in the upcoming digital identity wallets,

so work is ongoing, but we also rely on our member states and everyone has a role to play here.

Good. Other questions to Thomas. Yes, please.